[RQ-Rules] Re: New RQ
Simon Phipp
soltakss at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 7 03:14:59 PDT 2005
--- steve at perrinworlds.com wrote:
> To: soltakss at yahoo.com
> From: steve at perrinworlds.com
> Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: New RQ
> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2005 16:34:52 -0000
>
> Simon,
>
> Any attempt I make to respond to this list from my work computer ends up
> just going to the person who posted, no matter what I put in the "To" line.
> Could you please forward this to the list?
>
> From some of Greg's comments, I have the idea that HeroQuest and
> MonRuneQuest will be dealing with different areas of Glorantha, which is
> certainly big enough for it.
>
> I think this is an opportunity for a more extensive exploration of
> Glorantha, with books from each publisher covering different areas and a
> translation system to coordinate them.
>
> Alternately, of course, Mongoose could just put out a general purpose
> Glorantha book and refer those who want more to Issaries, and meanwhile
> carry on with non-Glorantha projects.
>
> Either would probably work, and Issaries would probably want to go with the
> latter unless they just have so much material that they need a second
> publisher to get it all out.
>
> And for those who have seen the exchanges on RPGNet, yes Matthew Sprange
> and I are at least in the opening throes of communication and I may be
> doing something or other for the Mongoose product.
>
> I wonder if they'll switch to a role high system?
>
> Onward!
>
> Steve Perrin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: soltakss at yahoo.com
> > To: rq-rules at crashbox.com
> > Subject: [RQ-Rules] Re: New RQ
> > Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 17:17:49 +0100 (BST)
> > Alban:
> >
> > > Did anybody hear of this :
> > >
> > > http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?t=201322
> > >
> > > According to this post, a new edition of RuneQuest will be released
> next
> > > year by Mongoose, but with completely different system.
> > > As there is a call for RQ fans to help in designing this new game, I
> guess
> > > some of you may be interested.
> >
> > I wondered why all my subscribed RQ groups all fired off at the same
> time.
> >
> > Tony Den:
> >
> > > Any statement lie this has me worried. While I am sure everyone would
> love
> > > updated and new RQ material, I think we all fear the butchering of core
> > > rules at the same time.
> > >
> > > Looked on Mongooses site and found this forum, not much help
> > > http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/forum.php
> > > <http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/forum.php>
> >
> > At the moment, I would guess that all forums are split between comments
> such
> > as "Cor, what a jolly good idea" and "What? Another version of a dead
> game?"
> > or between the "Let's have more Gloranthan RuneQuest" and "Let's have
> > non-Gloranthan RuneQuest". Things should die down after a while and some
> > proper information should come out.
> >
> > Gianni:
> >
> > > Doing a search with the string 'runequest' on their sites yields the
> > > following: Gloranthan rolegame, new system.
> > >
> > > Now do we need YET ANOTHER Gloranthan rolegame??????
> >
> > YES!!! If it is RuneQuest.
> >
> > Nick Middleton:
> > > ah, but according to Greg Stafford's own post at RPGNet it's _not_ a
> new
> > > system: it's the old one re-written just enough to avoid Copyright
> > > issues...
> > >
> > > Does this bother anyone else as much as it does me?
> >
> > I'm not bothered about the copyright issue - that's why copyright lawyers
> > earn fortunes.
> >
> > What I am bothered about is the obvious amount of shit-stirring that is
> > involved.
> >
> > 1. Issaries launches HeroWars and the HeroQuest in order to produce a
> > Gloranthan RPG that is not RuneQuest.
> >
> > 2. Chaosium decided to reprint the Basic Roleplaying Monographs for
> > non-Glorantha, probably to cash in on the anti-HeroQuest groundswell
> amongst
> > die-hard RQ fans.
> >
> > 3. Issaries buys up the RuneQuest Trademark.
> >
> > 4. Issaries licenses another company, not Chaosium, to produce a versio
> of
> > RuneQuest, which they can do as they own the trademark, and which they
> have a
> > history for as RQ and Glorantha went hand in hand.
> >
> > The only thing I can see is that Issaries are deliberately going up
> against
> > Chaosium with the RQ/Glorantha combination.
> >
> > Now, many RQ die-hards will say that they won't touch it as it is
> Gloranthan.
> > But, equally many will say that they would buy it as it is where
> Glorantha
> > belongs.
> >
> > Tal Meta:
> > > > ah, but according to Greg Stafford's own post at RPGNet it's _not_ a
> new
> > > > system: it's the old one re-written just enough to avoid Copyright
> > > > issues...
> > >
> > > Actually, what I got was that Chaosium's ABRPG was the old system with
> > > the serial #s filed off; Mongoose's proposed system is more in a line
> of
> > > a v4 rewrite, with updated mechanics for the 21st century.
> >
> > >From the press blurn at Mongoose, they are looking at ways to improve
> the
> > rules, that's why they are asking people which rules were good from the
> old
> > versions. At least they are asking. It couldn't be RQ3 or RQ2 again as
> they
> > are owned by various people, but it could be a reworking of the rules as
> the
> > basic rules appear to be non-copyrightable.
> >
> > Nick:
> > > For those who can't follow the link "The game will be the same system,
> not
> > > the same copyrighted words."
> > >
> > > seems pretty unambiguous to me...
> >
> >
> > But, "the same system" is in itself ambiguous. RQ3 was the same system as
> RQ2
> > as was RQ4.
> >
> > As to the future, I heartily welcome a new version of RuneQuest. I have
> been
> > playing HeroQuest for a year and it is not the same. Better in some ways,
> but
> > not what I love, which is RQ.
> >
> > What remains to be seen is how it is going to be supported. How long will
> it
> > be before Issaries stops helping them with Gloranthan products? How many
> > people will buy the Gloranthan and non-Gloranthan versions? Don't forget
> that
> > HeroQuest is going non-Gloranthan with the Questworld series. Can we cope
> > with HeroQuest and RuneQuest versions of the same worlds?
> >
> > My first thoughts were "Yippee!" but I can't see how it is going to work,
> > unless Issaries is going to scale down HeroQuest and go back to
> RuneQuest,
> > which would be interesting ....
> >
> >
> > Simon
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