[Rq-rules] Farewell to CON

Sven Lugar vikingjarl at gmail.com
Thu Jan 11 23:34:20 PST 2007


Both of you have illustrated my point - that we can't even agree on a 
definition of power, thus we can't even argue the merits. There are 
those folk who feel that prayer has power yet it can't be quantified or 
measured on a meter. However you will find reputable psychologists & 
doctors with no religious bent themselves encourage their cancer 
patients to actively take up prayer & show documentation that survival 
rates are measurably higher amongst those who pray. Prayer is usually 
considered a form of magic. Does it exist or not exist? It seemingly has 
results. One author said many years ago that technology sufficiently 
advanced to a more primitive culture is indistinguishable from magic. 
Are ESP, Magic & prayer merely our attempt to grasp a technologies we 
don't understand yet? I'm very left brained & like my world orderly & 
nailed down tight understandable principles. I learned long ago (mind 
you the hard way - from experience) there are things beyond my ken that 
don't pigeon hole.

You are quite correct; use whatever rules fit the "reality" of the 
gaming world you are running. If CON doesn't tilt your kilt don't use 
it. Do you think there weren't arguments/debates when we 
contributing/playtesting the original rules & every variant since then? 
These discussions are often rehashings of previous debates from those 
early days in the 70's. These rules are not ordained in stone & no-one 
will be struck by lightning for fiddling with them. Do what is necessary 
for your campaign.
Skal,
Sven

Lev Lafayette wrote:
> I'm absolutely certain that POW exists. I consider it
> to be equivalent of spirit and willpower.
>
> BTW, with reference to the CON discussion, I do agree
> with everything you've said. Really! It's just that
> the distinction between red and white muscle isn't
> really a huge term for me and least of all in the game
> I'm running. I am probably more concerned by the need
> for a PERception type characteristic in my game.
>
> Not having CON hasn't really damaged the game I'm
> playing and buy changing the stat to a
> perception/senses characteristic I think we've added
> to it...
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Lev
>
> --- Sven Lugar <vikingjarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> I saw a cartoon (gamer poster) sometime back showing
>> a portrait of our 
>> current president (of the U.S.A) with the tag line
>> "INT, not everyone 
>> uses Charisma as the dump stat!" (I don't mean this
>> as a political 
>> statement but rather that not everyone views CHA as
>> useless). As to 
>> Power, how does one argue that something that we
>> presently have no meter 
>> to measure & scale to quantify it, exists let alone
>> argue its 
>> effectiveness. However, I've met men & women though
>> average or even 
>> mud-fence ugly; who seem to have this presence that
>> defies the usual 
>> explanations of fame, political power, or money. It
>> just is. But then 
>> again, when I was a 7 year old kid, I was taken to
>> the Principals office 
>> & beaten for stating (with supporting scientific
>> documentation) that 
>> what we now call Plate Tectonics was real. The
>> teachers & establishment 
>> at my school denied it as did most educators in the
>> 50's & even into the 
>> 60's & 70's - Heck there are probably still
>> skeptics. Who can say with 
>> absolute certainty whether POW exists or not, eh?
>> skal,
>> Sven
>>
>> Lance Dyas wrote:
>>     
>>> ...snip...
>>>       
>>>>  
>>>>         
>>> Of course in the modern civilized world... POW as
>>>       
>> it manifests in 
>>     
>>> Discepline
>>> must be completely useless and CHA...well nobody
>>>       
>> finds more friends or 
>>     
>>> makes
>>> more money because of either of these things
>>>       
>> nope... totallly useless. 
>>     
>>> ;-)
>>>
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