[Rq-rules] Harn and Harnmaster

[John Pare']

I did some checking on Harn, and it seems very "Ruley" to me.  Sort of like 
ICE's product, what we referred to as Rulemaster.   Do not have an interest 
in it at all...

I mean in ROLEMASTER, there was probably a chart for sneezing.





John






>From: "Peter Maranci" <pmaranci at gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Discussion of RuneQuest rules." <rq-rules at crashbox.com>
>To: "Discussion of RuneQuest rules." <rq-rules at crashbox.com>
>Subject: Re: [Rq-rules] Harn and Harnmaster
>Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:14:04 -0400
>
>No offense meant to anyone but I have to say that Harn bored the fertilizer
>out of me. It's a setting with an insane amount of detail, but more isn't
>always better (I'd say the same thing about Tekumel, and post-RQ Glorantha
>too come to think of it).
>
>Can't remember what system we were using with Harn (this was around 1987, 
>as
>I recall), but I do remember that the deadliness really put me off. I was
>playing a heavily armored death knight of some sort, modelled after Darth
>Vader, and I ended up being killed single-handed by a farmer with a
>pitchfork. And I hadn't even been injured before I met that damned farmer;
>he was my first encounter.
>
>->Peter
>
>On 5/14/07, postmaster at runequest.za.org <postmaster at runequest.za.org> 
>wrote:
>>
>>Like my brother concluded after playing a bit of HarnMaster. Its like the
>>designers player RuneQuest and some other games and picked what was best
>>and made up some of their own stuff for the gaps and its actually quite a
>>usable, nice system as a result. Takes a bit of getting used to but I
>>suppose thats teh same for most systems. Once I got the hang of it it was
>>very playable. Just had to remember that rolling a 01 was sometimes not as
>>good as say a 25.....
>>
>>BTW - Don't know if columbiagames still sells Harn. Them and N Robin
>>Crosby had some sort of falling out and he has started his own company to
>>flog harn gear and am sure there was some sort of time period for columbia
>>to exhaust their stock.
>>Tony
>>
>>
>> > And the game and a number of its in-print supplements can be found at
>> > www.columbiagames.com. Definitely pricier than RQ but it can be a mine
>>of
>> > detail for RQ campaigns. The game designers focused a bit more on 
>>combat
>> > realism than in RQ which, in turn, can slow combat down a bit but 
>>that's
>> > more of a personal preference. I've played RQ when a melee took 30
>>minutes
>> > realtime and a Harn-based melee which took seconds.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> > On 5/8/07, Lev Lafayette <lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --- John Pare' <parejf63 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > What is Harn?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> A very, very detailed medieval/low-fantasy setting
>> >> which had numerous supplements in the 80s (which now
>> >> command a small fortune, rather like RQ products) and
>> >> a very strong, but small, cadre of fans. There was an
>> >> associated game called Harnmaster...
>> >>
>> >> Harn and HarnMaster focussed strongly on medieval
>> >> realism, unlike RQ and Glorantha which were quite high
>> >> magic and mythic. It was sort of like the Monty Python
>> >> films "The Holy Grail" and "Jabberwocky" but without
>> >> the humour.
>> >>
>> >> I remember my first game where, after a particularly
>> >> tough set of encounters and problems the gross
>> >> treasure was a sword, an orc (whom I captured) and a
>> >> gold ring. I say gross treasure, because my
>> >> character's sword broke during the battles.
>> >>
>> >> Despite the fact that your characters will be scraping
>> >> the barrel trying to get enough money to stay fed and
>> >> clothed, let alone buy a suit of armour, I quite like
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> Also a percentile-based, roll-under system so
>> >> evidently influenced by RQ as well ;-)
>> >>
>> >> More info here:
>> >>
>> >> http://homepages.peakpeak.com/~fedifensor/games/harn.htm
>> >>
>> >> HTH HAND,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Lev
>> >>
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