[Rq-rules] OT: Vietnam
Paul Cardwell
carpgachair at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 9 08:19:11 PDT 2007
Just Russian equipment?
They had quite a bit of captured French and US
equipment as well. Let's remember that Ho Chi Mien
was a US Army captain in WW-II and so there was quite
a bit of US equipment available to them without the
cost of capturing it.
I am not sure they got even tactics from the Chinese -
their traditional enemy. One could argue just as well
that it came from Maquis, Apache, or Spanish against
Napoleon (the original "guerilla" "little war"). It
is the only way a people can fight an occupier without
being exterminated by massive firepower and no concern
for the rights of others. A "stand-up" battle is
essentially the coup de grace after the war is
basically over (Dien Bien Phu, Tet Offensive, etc.).
Paul Cardwell
--- Thomas Zunder <tom at zunder.org.uk> wrote:
> OT: Stating that the highly civilised Vietnamese
> society is/was
> primitive is sadly all too much the norm.
> Technologically outfaced by
> the USA the Vietnamese maybe, primitive, no. In
> many ways the Viet Minh
> were not that outmatched by the French, since the
> VietMinh had access to
> modern Russian equipment, and they beat them in a
> stand up fight kind of
> war. They resorted more to guerilla tactics as the
> logical way, learnt
> from the Chinese Communists, to fight an unpopular
> occupier with
> overwhelming air power. In some straight fights with
> the US Army and the
> Marines the NVA aquitted itself pretty well, albeit
> at huge casualty
> rates. At a technical disadvantage, yes, primitive,
> no. END of OT.
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