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Both of you have illustrated my point - that we can't even agree on a
definition of power, thus we can't even argue the merits. There are
those folk who feel that prayer has power yet it can't be quantified or
measured on a meter. However you will find reputable psychologists
& doctors with no religious bent themselves encourage their cancer
patients to actively take up prayer & show documentation that
survival rates are measurably higher amongst those who pray. Prayer is
usually considered a form of magic. Does it exist or not exist? It
seemingly has results. One author said many years ago that technology
sufficiently advanced to a more primitive culture is indistinguishable
from magic. Are ESP, Magic & prayer merely our attempt to grasp a
technologies we don't understand yet? I'm very left brained & like
my world orderly & nailed down tight understandable principles. I
learned long ago (mind you the hard way - from experience) there are
things beyond my ken that don't pigeon hole.<br>
<br>
You are quite correct; use whatever rules fit the "reality" of the
gaming world you are running. If CON doesn't tilt your kilt don't use
it. Do you think there weren't arguments/debates when we
contributing/playtesting the original rules & every variant since
then? These discussions are often rehashings of previous debates from
those early days in the 70's. These rules are not ordained in stone
& no-one will be struck by lightning for fiddling with them. Do
what is necessary for your campaign.<br>
Skal,<br>
Sven<br>
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Lev Lafayette wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I'm absolutely certain that POW exists. I consider it
to be equivalent of spirit and willpower.
BTW, with reference to the CON discussion, I do agree
with everything you've said. Really! It's just that
the distinction between red and white muscle isn't
really a huge term for me and least of all in the game
I'm running. I am probably more concerned by the need
for a PERception type characteristic in my game.
Not having CON hasn't really damaged the game I'm
playing and buy changing the stat to a
perception/senses characteristic I think we've added
to it...
All the best,
Lev
--- Sven Lugar <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:vikingjarl@gmail.com"><vikingjarl@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I saw a cartoon (gamer poster) sometime back showing
a portrait of our
current president (of the U.S.A) with the tag line
"INT, not everyone
uses Charisma as the dump stat!" (I don't mean this
as a political
statement but rather that not everyone views CHA as
useless). As to
Power, how does one argue that something that we
presently have no meter
to measure & scale to quantify it, exists let alone
argue its
effectiveness. However, I've met men & women though
average or even
mud-fence ugly; who seem to have this presence that
defies the usual
explanations of fame, political power, or money. It
just is. But then
again, when I was a 7 year old kid, I was taken to
the Principals office
& beaten for stating (with supporting scientific
documentation) that
what we now call Plate Tectonics was real. The
teachers & establishment
at my school denied it as did most educators in the
50's & even into the
60's & 70's - Heck there are probably still
skeptics. Who can say with
absolute certainty whether POW exists or not, eh?
skal,
Sven
Lance Dyas wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Of course in the modern civilized world... POW as
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<pre wrap="">it manifests in
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<pre wrap="">Discepline
must be completely useless and CHA...well nobody
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<pre wrap="">finds more friends or
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<pre wrap="">makes
more money because of either of these things
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<pre wrap="">nope... totallly useless.
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<pre wrap="">;-)
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